From: "Osumo M. W." wosumo@ . . . yahoo.com>
"An East African Online Forum Dedicated to Information Exchange." jambo at p ubliceyesite dot org
Subject: Re: [Jambo] HARAMBEE TO RAISE MONEY FOR ODM-KENYA SECRETARIATE: Is this Genuine
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 05:42:26 -0800 (PST)

I think sure there is something that raises eyebrows in the lineup of these ODMK-USA membership

It is everybody's right to form orgaizations and fundraise for whichever cause they deem fit, but I have started feel jitterly with some these offshore organizations. Are they tribal, are they for ODM, are they for Raila or are they for the members benefit.

Those who have eyes let them see,

Ha ha.. If you scroll down and look at the organising committee,all their sirnames end with an "O".lol too funny. It is quite clear that this is a tribal affair. I thought ODM was supposed to incorporate all tribes in Kenya since they keep crying about tribalism within Kibaki's government. I bet if Odinga happens to come to power the government and parastatal heads roster will have plenty of names that end with "O". But fortunately my fellow Kenyan brethren cannot be easily duped.

Harambee should be allowed to go on. Kenyatta and Odinga started it and Moi and Biwott perfected it.Kibaki is a beneficiary of harambee.Let those people raising money raise money. You better start Ogutu or Kadibo ODMK -USA and also raise money. Those people have the same manly qualities as you or are you less manly in your underwear.Let me know, viagra may be an option.Why bother them?.

Akajo man Otira

KOBALA

"We are hungry for new kind of politics.God bless Raila! FOR PRESIDENT, Ruto as VP, Musyoka/Mudavadi as PM Balala,Ojiambo,Uhuru as deputy PM".

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From: "william munene" mneshjnr@ . . .
Reply-To: "An East African Online Forum Dedicated to Information Exchange."
Subject: Re: [Jambo] HARAMBEE TO RAISE MONEY FOR ODM-KENYA SECRETARIATE
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2007 13:59:49 +0000

Dear Friends, As we all or most agree, truth hurts. I would like to raise my opinion even though I am aware that this won't sound good and/or I might be 100% wrong. This has nothing to do with tribes or the males "rights of passage", but I don't think Raila Odinga will ever hold the big office - His father had a better chance.

Have a thoughtful day!

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From: "barack abonyo" luo31@ . . .
Subject: Re: [Jambo] HARAMBEE TO RAISE MONEY FOR ODM-KENYA SECRETARIATE
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 01:52:27 +0000

Bwana Munene

Could please give reasons why you think Raila "will never hold the the big office"

As for the father issue, it doesn't help to discuss that. I believe you are saying that as a consolation statement. If that is the way you felt, the people of kiambu that voted for Muite should have voted for Odinga. They did not. Why?

Barack

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From: "william munene" mneshjnr@ . . .
Subject: Re: [Jambo] HARAMBEE TO RAISE MONEY FOR ODM-KENYA SECRETARIATE
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:01:05 +0000

Simply put, Raila has never been successful in anything, he doesn't respond very well in his assignments - all portfolios he held in the past were failures. He is an insatiable opportunist political hopper.

Thanks, WM

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barack abonyo luo31@ . . . wrote:

Mr. Munene
I think your statements are very wide and lacks forcus. You may want to organize it in this manner

Statement 1. Simply put, Raila has never been successful in anything-
ANSWER:-It would help if you gave examples.
EXAMPLE: Kibaki has never been successful in anything
1. Kibaki discouraged opposition and welcomed one party system. He waited untill people had cleared the way for him and then he stepped in. He is the opportunist
2. Kibaki is a lier: He bold face lied to his comrads on memorandum of understanding and sold them for a piece of tribal silver Statement No 2:- Raila doesn't respond very well in his assignments - all portfolios he held in the past were failures.
ANSWER:-Examples may help. I do not think you have any
Kibaki's example speaks for itself
What can you say kibaki achieved when he was finace minister?
How about when he was vice president?
Can you give me any successful policy kibaki initiated?
Kibaki is a coward. Under his watch prominent kenyans got killed and his lips failed to move.
Statement 3. He is an insatiable opportunist political hopper.
I think you are out of touch with kenyan second liberation Here I think you talking about kibaki

If I were you I would not put these statemnts up because they shift the light in the direction of your candidate and it makes him look like a dwarf in comparison to the other presidential candidates. For God's shake even Kituyi or Kombo is way better than Kibaki in terms of their achievements.

I am a critic of Raila but I give the guy the credit he deserves. Your criticism is unfair and is tribally motivated or is catalysed by personal vendetas. I wonder how you gain from that

Barack