Wakenya waooga sana. They threaten, heckle and go after the ones who seem vulnerable. Why, all one needs to say is 'these foreigners are meddling with our country's political issues'- then all attention and ire is diverted to the 'innocent' guys. These 15 students WOULD NEVER GIVE SUCH AN ULTIMATUM TO THE MPS OR THE PRESIDENT, clearly the obvious forces behind these two men's actions.

OUR PROBLEMS WILL NEVER BE SOLVED! NOW ATI YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT DELEMARE INSTEAD OF GOING AFTER A ONE THIEF BIWOTT!!!!!


Kenya Times:

"Speaking at a press conference in Nairobi, 15 students representing various public universities said they will mobilise their colleagues to riot if the Government does not take action against Artur Margaryan and Artur Sargaryan.

They warned the two men against participating in Kenyan politics or any other matters concerning Kenyans.

“These two men should not come near The University of Nairobi or any of its campuses if they care for their lives. We are prepared to protect our status as and sovereign state,” said Simiyu Ignatious, a University of Nairobi student."

I hpe u are not the real She(h) because yo have no guts to talk of the people terrorising our motherland. Just bcoz you marraied a white man does not make you overlook your birth place. Look at dengu a true 'kenyan human'

fool. you are going to tell people what they can post while all you do all day is post nonsense and insults?

Nyani haoni _______.

Pole sana. No one but a few powerful Kenyan politicians are terrorising 'our motherland' as you refer to it. I am more saddened to learn that there are people like you who still can see that. Let me ask you a question, why is Somali in chaos? Is there a foreigner there meddling with their internal matters- NO!!! wao wafrika wenyewe tu. A country with no president for ompteen years now.

Who I married has nothing to do with my commitment to my birth place. Wacha ujinga.

why do you sandwich yourself btw the 2 ?

Nyani haoni _______.

Pole sana. No one but a few powerful Kenyan politicians are terrorising 'our motherland' as you refer to it. I am more saddened to learn that there are people like you who still can see that. Let me ask you a question, why is Somali in chaos? Is there a foreigner there meddling with their internal matters- NO!!! wao wafrika wenyewe tu. A country with no president for ompteen years now.

Who I married has nothing to do with my commitment to my birth place. Wacha ujinga.

Most Kenyans are not political junkies like RCBers. Most Kenyans do not have the luxury to follow the news blow by blow. Most of them are just busy trying to feed their kids. However they have a general idea what is going on and when the time comes they will do exactly what they did with the Wako Mongrel. Even Moi underestimated Kenyans. MKM also swaggered but they started falling one by one. This government as far as most Kenyans are concerned is history, it is just a matter of time. Even the little time they have they keep on tying it around their necks. I'd rather have the measured Kenyans than those war torn countries like Liberia. We will throw them out just be patient.

Kichwa Mbaya, I hope so. I hope and pray that it will not take us some 20 years to make a another change. I hope we never accord any 'thief/ves' more than four years to prove what they're worth in powerful positions.

I like his arguments until he introduces tribalism. If he stayed away from that, almost all RCBers would agree with with him. His reductionist theory that everything is tribal is hogwash. It is about the haves and have-nots. He should concentrate on arguing for wiping out ALL the thieves no matter where they hail from.

It is very clear that active terrorist structures are still operational in kenya and will hate to see police let this dangerous idiots slip out of their hands.
remember us embassy and kikambala ?.....dada vipi

vipi Teusi?

wacha hapo, the 'gava' is very much behind these misguided "businessmen" bwana, don't let them be the sacrificial lambs to hoodwink the masses.

Kenyans know the truth, these guys are not playing kenyans, they are playing themselves. If you can figure this out, why do you think Kenyans cannot figure it out. You seem to have a very low opinion of the people. What is it that you think is so hard to figure out here. Kenyans know these guys are being protected by the gava. Kenyans know that police kill people, arrest people and search peoples houses every day without a warrant or even an excuse. When they see these guys get VIP treatment they know the gova is behind them.

.... and all we want to do is lynch the flies on her nose…
You seem to have a very low opinion of the people. What is it that you think is so hard to figure out here.

: protected by the gava.
: they know the gova is behind them.

make up you mind. Is it gava or gova?

..why haven't the same Kenyans unleashed their anger in public towards the corrupt MPs and the gava the same way they treat the brothers? Just wondering-

One of the many anonymous' obviously a kiuk accuses me of injecting tribe into my political analysis. I am calling a press conference on this one to defend my self.

Let me start by saying that I think tribalism is what destroyed Kibaki's government and I hoped the next leader will learn from this.

However, tribalism was introduced into our politics by Kenyattaa and supported by most kiuks because they benefited from it in a big way which is still evident. Infact they had a plan to keep the presidency in the "house" for as long as possible. Moi was just a mistake which blossomed and went out of control. When Moi, became independent from the Kikuyu grip in 1982, he too started practicing tribalism and greatly favored his Kalenjin people.

When Kiuks came back to power through Kibaki, they just went crazy with this tribalism thing. It is almost like they wanted to make up for the 25 years that they were out of power. Just look at the kibaki government tody, it reeks of tribalism. The referendum vote result is the best statistical data of Kikuyuism ever collected.

Any analysis of how Kenyans will vote in the next elections without the tribal equation is useless. After being caught practicing tribalism, most kiuks are now trying to point fingers at others in an attempt to divert attention.

The next two major presidential candidates will get a solid vote from their tribes, but that will not put them over the top. What is going to make a winner out of one of them is the candidate whose appeal will be able to go beyond his/her tribe. This is how you neutralize the tribal factor. Kiuks always start with a bigger base than others if only one of them rans but it is not enough to win as they learned in the referendum. This forces every Kenyan presidential candidate to put together a coalition well beyond their tribe and must also govern that way inorder to succeed as a president.

http://kenya.rcbowen.com/talk/index.cgi?action=Article&article=86670&start=1&limit=50

I hope one day the duo will be comrades!

One of the many anonymous' obviously a kiuk accuses me of injecting tribe into my political analysis. I am calling a press conference on this one to defend my self.
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Luos figured out along time ago that they cannot do it alone. Raila is the one who started this coalition thing-ndp/kanu before Kibaki, Ngilu and wamalwa followed suit.

Kiuks believed they could do it alone in GEMA but failed miserably during the referendum. They cannot bring themselves to support anybody else from another tribe. They are the ones with a problem so do not unfairly include luos in the blame game.

They have refused to learn from the referendum and are stuck to the Kenyatta's era of 'Kamwene'. Their rank and file keep quiet while the country is bleeding with scandals, famine and insecurity; because they feel their God-given number advantage is there to keep and will always help them subjugate other tribes in the cold. I say to them that there is light at the end of the tunnel. Come out and condem the ills afflicting the country today since whenever you join forces with others, we have learnt that milestones occur in this beloved country. Otherwise any continued parochialism on their part is destined in the end to destroy them and the country as well.

Luos are just desperate. They have no guarantee that the rest of the Kenya tribes will vote Raila for a high seat. I mean they cannot be sure that ODM will even field a united front.

This is why the next president must have kanyaga gwachee as the unofficial unspoken policy just like Moi did, but this time in legal ways. Devolution is a MUST to neutralise the agikuyu factor.

Without devolution we are all in trouble as nothing will change. Is it not ironic that the entire beach strip in Kenya is controlled by Kikuyus and europeans?

It is undemocratic to try and balance Kenya politics based on tribes. It is the best person lead, the one who is elected by the people. It that person is a Luo sawa, if it is a Kikuyu sawa. Who will you tell that a Kikuyu cannot lead Kenya anymore? Who gives you that power to say that?

: It is undemocratic to try and balance Kenya politics based on tribes. It is the best person lead, the one who is elected by the people. It that person is a Luo sawa, if it is a Kikuyu sawa. Who will you tell that a Kikuyu cannot lead Kenya anymore? Who gives you that power to say that?

Just like they decided during the referendum. I put it to you that it is almost impossible for a non-Kikuyu to vote for a Kikuyu in 2007. The atmosphere right now is a highly charged and anti-Kikuyu based on what Kibaki, Michuki, Karua and their MKM have acted since 2003.

Their tribalistic actions gave us andu aitu flashbacks of 19070's that Kenyans never never want again. It is sad but that is just a fact that the average Kenyan cannot trust a Kikuyu again as a president.

I predict the candidate who runs on a covert anti-Kikuyu platform will receive almost fanatical support from Kenyans and will carry the day.

they will vote out all lip service. after viewing the menu in a restaurant, you don't say to the waiter, I think I will choose and not tell the waiter whether you want the fried Muthokoi or the Githeri. kenyans will vote in people who will deliver and not tribal affiliated thinking.

I've always thought no one is sharing my views. aka ka-Kichwa mbaya is getting more worse with his tribal hatred.

When the people of Kenya elected Mwai Kibaki they expected Kibaki to lead kenya into greater heights(that was )to do and work opposite of Moi.
But Kenyans missed one thing they forgot to go through Kibakis Dossier (history background) had Kenyans done that they would have changed their minds and elect someoneelse who was not tainted like Kibaki.

This Othaya Man joined politics of Kenya 1963 when most of rcbs were in their mothers wombs.Kibaki is not and has never been a man of the people . We know him as a man who keeps queit all the time such are very dangerous kind of people.

By promoting his tribe in all places in the government and elsewhere is doing alot of damage than good not only to the people of kenya but even to kikuyus .
Former president Moi isolated Kikuyus 24 yrs and were kept in the cold .Perhaps future presidents will isolate Kikuyus for 100 yrs which is very wrong because Majority of the Kikuyus are filthy poor Landless, squatters, illetrates, criminals , thieves .The largest number of prisoners in Kenya jails are the Kikuyus,majority of slum dwellers are the Kikuyus etc .

Kikuyu elites has no moral justification to claim to represent Kikuyus at all.All central Mps are money lovers greedy. selfish, political blind , visionless who still believe Kenyans are living in 70th During kiereini,Kihika Kimani,James Mungai , Ben Gethi,mbiyu Koinange,Njonjo ,Njenga, Gichuru Angaine, Nyaga, Chotara,
Njoroge Mungai,Mburu Gichua, Paul Ngei,Moi,Margaret Kenyatta, Mayor Ngumba, Rubia , Matiba,Wanyoike Thungu Mzee Jomo that time and kikuyu dirty politics is long gone .

their children will set themselves up for election

Don't forget that in the 70's he left Bahati seat in Nairobi to run Othaya seat in Nyeri. Against maverick Mrs. Joel Mbogo, Kibaki got a run for his money in Bahati. Had Kibaki continued to represent Bahati, I feel he could have become a better President since Nairobians would have not let him operate 'under the radar'.

... are there problems in paradise? Mambo Bado!!
http://www.eastandard.net/hm_news/news.php?articleid=38087

It is not a secret that Kalonzo thought that after the Steadman poll he was going to be declared "tosha". Therefore when Raila declared, Ruto declared, Balala declared, he became nervous. Kalonzo's instinct in this matter is wrong. Regardless of how he feels, he needs to support democracy. The more presidential candidates we have at the primary the better because this gives the people a more choices and a more competative race. Kalonzo should need wait for Raila, Ruto, Moi, Kenyattaa to anoint him. He should go straight to the people. A politician who gets his power from the people is more responsive to the people than one like Kibaki who never had to break a sweat campaigning. Kalonzo should support democratic principles that empowers the people and not those that takes away the the power to choose from the people.

: ... are there problems in paradise? Mambo Bado!!
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: http://www.eastandard.net/hm_news/news.php?articleid=38087

If he is as popular as he thinks he is what is he afraid of? The problem with people like Kalonzo who do not like competition is that they turn into the Kibaki's of this world once they get into power.

I would not support this man for the big seat based on the way he has been carrying himself lately.

That's if he really cared for Kenyans.. he should step aside knowing a greater leader exists than himself who is capable of doing the task much better than he. He made the mistake of acknowledging that steadman poll, pride comes before a fall. Not only that he hasn't demonstrated any laudable political initiatives. I'd say he's not yet ready to share the platform with those presidential candidates until he takes some time out and get a reality check, assess his strengths and weaknesses, have clear direction, an honest passion burning inside of him to lead Kenyans aligned with his actual ability as a leader.

Going for the presidency on his part would be a vain attempt this time round. Stepping aside would be a wise move if he wants to restore his image enough to consider for next time. Kenya ain't Tanzania, stakes are higher, leaders are rawer, expectations higher. I'm afraid Kalonzo hasn't shown it yet and I don't particularly want to see him trying this time round.

In terms of presidential candidates, you don't want more than 2 hopefuls out of mainstream or it'll muck up the voting. I only wanna see 2 mainstream campaigns like banana and orange, NARC and KANU. 1 from LDP, 1 from KANU or ODM vs Kibaki depending on whether he’s going for it. Kibaki is unpredictable and dangerous it's probably best to keep it ODM vs Kibaki at this point in time as a sure sign to eradicate him completely. Anything more from the major coalitions won't guarantee a fair and successful election.

Of course in the end will probably end up with two candidates. However, the best way to get to those two is through elimination by the vote not by "tosha". LDP can ran 10 candidates but only one will win. Kanu will also produce one winner. That means ODM will have two potential candidates. Out of those two it should not be difficult to pick the one who stands a better chance against Kibaki. I believe whomever ODM choose will win. Kalonzo is afraid he will not make the final cut and is starting to lay the grounds for a go it alone. When I saw him and Gidi the other day, I know him and Uhuru and Moi have something up their sleeves. I am sure Ruto and Raila know this and have a plan B. We will probably end up with three presidential candidates, Kibaki, ODM candidate and Uhuru/Kalonzo candidate. I think Uhuru and Kalonzo will walk from ODM. I hope I am wrong but it is starting to shape that way. I still believe ODM can make it still.

daddi, daddi, isn't it time for me to be plesitent? daddi, daddi, that luo boy is bullying me!

god raila is at his best as the schoolyard bully...this guy sickens me--'i am sooo right and cheeky'

i THINK toystoy you are biased. It sounds like you are a bitter man

bitter, maybe. biased against what? how? even god raila said kisii's look at issues fairly